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100% that. But mostly good folk tbh. Timing is everything. We knew what we were getting into on that one and it really leant itself well to the point of the video - go and find the magic, it's there despite the motor stuff. It set that up well. Too many of us ff types expect everything to go our way - heaps ofnother users and we can still enjoy the day 👌

bingo - and not hard to figure which given the extensive news the whole thing has garnered for several years. Please see the pinned reply to get a better feel of the whole from our perspective - there again there's lots of replies to comments that touch on it all.

Ain't it great that those fish were still there and active in all that! :) Yeah, like motors, our flies need to be BIGGER! :)

I was hoping to see you on here :) It was a very deliberate choice to go in to that water when we did. We actually wanted to do a video with real results that essentially says "hey, the conflict is in our heads with how we perceive the motorized users" and the results of the fishing really spell it out - if you give it time and poke about the fish are still the and active. We do the same and there are actually a couple of videos to come from pre-willow removal that feature the best fishing we had... from 3.5+m3sec flows, which seems to be about the flows that the motorheads start to really get in there. And to your point, it's a long history of users, they aren't just this lower bit, the mouth of the gorge a serious problem, and again... it's up to us to choose to or not fish there and how we conduct our minds and ourselves with others. A really neat opportunity to share. All this and yeah, we're foreigners with no voice. At the end of the day there is a great discussion to be had about trout being there, irrigation withdrawals for ag/vineyards, motorized use and if humanity has crossed the threshold on use of that creek... to wit we could then look at the rest of that and other similar regions. But, again, foreigners ;) :)

we're trying to avoid that discussion, given that it could be any country really... focused on the battle for solace being in our heads. Cheers

what every fly fisher is looking for! ;)

Oh, most countries it's not allowed. There has to be political will to enforce that common sense regulation, mind you. Using a riverbed as a motorhead track makes zero sense until you zoom out to the bigger picture of that stream, how a country's region dries up, how agriculture wins the day. Beyond the real point of the video there's an interesting conversation/discussion to be had here given that creek often dries up completely late summer.

Good point and something to consider moving forward in a different video. We really wanted to make a video that has an underlying pushback against the often self-righteous fly fishing purist that projects things have to be "just so" or otherwise the day is ruined. This video is intended to be exactly that - just because the worst case scenario happens, we can still get past ourselves and enjoy our day :)

How much silt is stirred up by folks walking in the water (in this video theres examples)? The micro plastics introduce from fishing tackle, waders, boots...the physical damage to the fish? Going the eco argument is damaging to both sports. Both are guilty. Just in different manners. Both also go to great lengths to protect their cherished resources. Hikers could fight the fight to get fishing shut down, I've seen it happen. All groups have equal access and should work together. Instead of viewing their desired usage as superior and every one else a nuisance.

@@tylerspri comparing 4x4 trail damage to hiker trail damage is like comparing a wound from a Shotgun to a BB gun wound.

​@zombierider2794 Clearly someone fishing in the stream does not stir up as much silt as a group of quads. But that does not matter to those that would deny us our access. They come for mine then they'll come for yours. I've seen it happen. Hikers got fisherman access denied locally to some public ponds. So for the various groups to bicker and point fingers and act like they have the morally higher ground will only end poorly for all involved. Especially since no group is as innocent as they feel they are.

@@tylerspri It's funny because I was the initial chair of the proposed BigHorn Wildland Coalition to create a wildland Park in central Alberta nearly 30 years ago - we had a LOT of support and agreement. The stumbling block... motorized vs non-motorized users. And the motorized user group argued the same thing then as you are here now. The funky part is that the position isn't wrong, it is misplaced - please realize I'm about to agree with all of what you say with an asterix, and that asterix is essentially the ticking clock of time. To explain - NOBODY can argue that the impact on a stream with motorized machinery isn't heavy and immediate. Add the volume of motorized users here and you get some severe impact. I think the point you're missing is the totality of impact of one machine vs other users. That's non-arguable. HOWEVER, to your point, and I agree 100%, eventually as the volumes of non-motorized users - horses, walkers, mountain bikes, etc gains volume and traction, eventually those culminate to also have a net negative impact. It doesn't matter how much BEYOND the threshold human use impact is, once it is past acceptable limits, it's past it. As we see with hiking trails in the alpine or the poppy trampling Instagram chasers, or the Roy's Peak phenomenon near Wanaka or... on and on it goes, the ticking time bomb of eventuality is that it's all beyond what is the threshold. Motorized users as they are doing here is immediately at that threshold... but is it past it? Given the creek dries up most summers, given that the irrigation use for vineyards and agriculture suck the life out of it, given that the brown trout are non-native yet somehow manage to exist through it all... does any of this matter in this location anyway? This one really challenges me personally on the environmental side of things but even I'm faced with shrugging and saying "it it what it is" and can choose to fish here or not. That's why we didn't focus on THAT angle of things in this video and used it to look at our own minds and how we perceive the inherent conflict of being literally run over vs staying the course and finding the magic in even the most impossible of locations. THAT's why we designed the video as we did, THAT's why we lead people in the way we did with title and thumbnail... to get people to understand that even in the worst projection of conflict that we CAN find solace, find some magic, find our enjoyment despite being embedded into what we would call our worst case scenario. And we pulled it all off, kept our heads, found some magic and can share. Hopefully you get the totality of things.

Absolutely thoughtless comment. The vehicles completely destroy the gravel bed and that is especially important during the spawning season. Incidentally, the gravel itself is also a habitat for other creatures, there are not only fish living in the water, or what do you "believe"? I call it "believe" because you seem to have little knowledge. I think you are a top fisherman, certainly with good handling of the animals. Go into the forest and play with a bear. Servus

​​@@KrohnJas an avid offroader and fly fisherman I can tell you that you and others like you are myopic and self serving. I've seen more wheelers out cleaning trails and servicing the land than I've seen fisherman doing the same. You judge because you don't like. It's that simple Dont forget that it could be argued our fishing is damaging to the wildlife as well. We have targets on our backs as fisherman just like the moto guys do.

Re: Unsubscribing: Perfect! Clearly you didn't take the time to watch what the video is actually about... going straight in to where other users are going to be annnnd... overcoming our own negative thoughts & projections, overcoming them to have an enjoyable day. Because you didn't take the time, because you didn't ask and because you jumped to projections it's great to hear that you'll be unsubscribing because life's too short to deal with people that do exactly what you just did. Thank you. The irony is that had you watched the video, everything you typed is exactly what we shared. Funny! The one correction I hope you see - a river is not a moto trail. But if you don't know that I encourage you to take a stream ecology 101 course. All the best

Dave did not assume that his public access is more important than moto-enthusiasts. He literally said @24:50 "I'm another user of the stream you don't care about us?". This was in response to the dude on the motorbike that was about to ruin the day for another trail user. Moto user did the right thing though and realized Dave was right, he needed to respect other trail users. So you have it ass-backwards man, re-watch the vid and determine for yourself. The pretentious attitude is coming from you it seems.

​​​​@@jensenflyfishingI watched the video. More than once in fact. I'm sorry the comments I've made don't align with your personal beliefs but as someone who's experienced this more than once, I'm tired of seeing the judgement from both sides. This is how land gets shut down for everyone. Not just fisherman and not just offroaders. I made my comments because you opened the video complaining about the riders as an "issue". You set the tone. You opened with judgement. For god's sakes your thumbnail says "motor head hell" and you wonder why people judge? I simply responded.

It is a real challenge to get past our minds and find the enjoyment / magic of the day when it goes like this, but as we share, if we can get past it there is magic to be found. Now, should a riverbed be a motorhead trail? Well, that's sadly become a global issue, hasn't it? N America, New Zealand, Patagonia... we'd hope we'd be smarter than we are collectively, but...

@jensenflyfishing everybody should be able to enjoy the outdoors. It why I guide. But riverbeds and riparian zones are not the places for 4 wheeling in my opinion. It's a crime against our dwindling precious resources.

It was funny I was the one worried about getting fishing line in his rubber boots on his bike. There's heaps of funny things that could have come from it but at the end of the day we wanted this to be a video where we deliberately went to where this all was likely to happen in order to push back against the fly fisher's "things have to be perfect". Life ain't but we can get past ourselves and enjoy a great day when we do! :)

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Jeepers - than you for your continued support. It definitely is part of what keeps this channel flowing :)

So since this was shot last year we've kind of been 2/3 and 1/3 the newer H4 prototype and the H3, moving almost exclusively to the H4 since. As Orvis Field testing crew I've had the h4 in hand nearly 2 1/2 years now and honestly moved mostly to it once I got it :) THAT all said the 4wt H3F is perfect for this video situation, water types and fish. My preference is the H4 now as it kicks in a little more backbone than the H3 offered while not losing any flex point or energy to load - in fact it is more efficient and a noticeable touch to spot-on point & shoot. You can't go wrong with either my I'd look at the h4 with an eye to different lines. I use the Hydros Trout DT as we do a LOT of casting in tight where there is less fly line than leader length out of the rod.

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glad you enjoyed this one - this would all happen about now so keep your eyes on the flows... :)

Thank you for the encouragement - heaps of channels and glad this one connects with you :)

:) Awesome to hear, glad you enjoy our little shares of the fun stuff in life :)

Where's the benefit of the doubt and pause to consider who we are and what we're about to ask that publicly?

:) Should be a great trip! We've had a cooler, much wetter spring so you could be very well-timed :)

You got it! Exactly what's possible if you choose it:)

Was a great day and offered some neat visuals :)

Thank you kindly :)

AJ nailed the video for sure. :)

Great to hear - hope you get out this way. We do a little guiding on it so drop us a line if you want to fish that way a day or two :)

Great to hear, glad you enjoyed it. We share our fly boxes and the extra add-ons and behind the scenes at our digital membership www.patreon.com/jensenflyfishing as a way to give additional information and our audience to support us here and what we share.

well you left the kinds home alone and they certainly take cany from strangers! :)

@@jensenflyfishing 😄

Some fun fish right there! :)

love the Bow!

An OLD SA box circa 1988 - 1992?

Hi, thank you for that. There's really nothing better in life than these moments and unbeknownst to most people they are far more commonly available (not this specific kind of creek, rather, the style of fishing and breakdown) than most think. Allowing time for a stream to unfold, show itself... as you know, it just shows when you allow it and then there's nothing better :) But it's great to have these little spots and yours sound right up our alley and ours right up yours :) The one thing I'll never understand is - the ppl that have to know exactly where you are or even what creek... literally every bank of every stream or river in Alberta has these fish and, more to the point, how is chasing another person's magic in any way, shape or form of value to me if I helicopter myself in just to have a photo with the next person's fish? How does that ever scratch the satisfactory itch? But, 95% do it. If we hear of where someone's magic happened we avoid it altogether or fish it when the opportunity arises to fish with that person. Even at that, once you know, you know, and the world gets a little bit smaller when you do. And knowing in a smaller world leaves less of it to dream about.

Yup! 🤣

Dave20 and AJ 13 on dries 😍

@@jensenflyfishing 20lb brown 😱😱😱

@@jensenflyfishing one of my lifetime goals is a brown 20lbs or bigger ..I'm only at 12lbs so far

@@BobKoehler well... the words "only" and "12lbs" aren't often mixed together! :)

Thank you 😊

Yup. The good days when we had freedom to roam and it took time to do it. Now... 110kmh to Ram Falls campground and a race to the river between 6 or 8 trucks.

Those are the best days in life. The world is too woke and populated to allow for anyone to admit to doing that these days but man... those are the romantic days 🫠🥰

Thanks for having our backs in what you said here. 😊

It sure is.

We're glad this meant so much to you. A lot of effort went into the creation if it. Thanks for watching.

no dam on the Ram. Cheers

@@jensenflyfishing my mistake I meant falls

Exactly. Nature sure shines brightly. 😊

That doesn't surprise us in the least! Such a consistently great fly.